What’s going on between Sansa and Sandor?
Just something I’ve discovered:
Oh, fandom. I’m so proud of you.
- Tyrion doesn’t have sex (read: rape) with Sansa when she’s thirteen, although he clearly wants to and has no reason not to despite the fact that she doesn’t want it: he’s not a pedo.
- Littlefinger doesn’t have sex (read: rape) with Sansa when she’s fourteen, although he clearly wants to, and kisses her and touches her even though she doesn’t want him to, has complete control over her and puts her in a place where she can do nothing but consent and has no reason not to, except that her maidenhead is political currency: he’s not a pedo.
- Sandor doesn’t have sex (read: rape) with Sansa when she’s thirteen, although he wants to and has plenty of reasons not to, including self-loathing for being attracted to her in the first place, misplaced guilt for not protecting her, and and misplaced guilt for wanting her:he’s a pedo.
source : LittlebirdcleganeI’d like to make clear that Littlebirdclegane was being sarcastic in the quote above because some people seem to be as subtle as a flying brick.
I think people who believe that haven’t paid too much attention. GRRM hasn’t written the Hound as a pedo. He never gave the impression to be one and neither did Tyrion, because it wasn’t the author’s intention to portray them that way. Littlefinger, on the other hand, creeps and lusts after Sansa.
Tyrion and Sandor feel attracted to her because she looks nothing like a child, she looks like a woman. They restrain from acting on their impulses. Sandor’s attraction to her is much stronger than Tyrion’s, which is only casual and just an instinctive physical reaction to her naked body.
Sandor and Sansa share a strange connection nobody else seems to spot because they are overlooked by everyone in KL. He’s seen as nothing but an underling, less than that, a dog, and she’s seen as a hostage, and a dumb unintelligent one.
Perhaps some readers make the same mistake. They don’t see them for what they are and they haven’t noticed the subtle nuances of their connection. It may be only a sort of empathy,shared confidences and caring about each other, but this would be more than enough to make their relationship special and very intimate.
This is more than enough for us shippers to love them as a ‘couple’, or whatever word you may use to refer to them. Do we see them as a romantic couple, flirting and teasing, seducing each other? No, definitely not, we see something much deeper: it’s not about lust or about wanting to have sex, it’s feeling something for each other, it’s about feeling, not about fucking.
When they part and they take separate paths we realise there was physical attraction too. It’s true that the tension between them was there before, but only during the Blackwater battle scene in Sansa’s bedroom does it become clear and obvious, when if was only hinted at and suggested before. He wants her for him, as a woman, and he seems to loathe himself for that. When he is no longer with her, we get to know she fantasizes about him. She is far from indifferent to him as a man and that is crystal clear.
I think GRRM has been establishing the basis for a future ‘romance’. He started building it up in book one and I think it will have a development and a closure , one way or another. Does this mean they will fuck, as some of you put it? They might or they might not but that’s not the point. Some people have a one night stand and forget about each other the next day, others never sleep together and remember each other for ever.
If this pairing leaves no one indifferent, if most people have noticed there’s something going on there whether they like it or not, there must be a reason. We have noticed them because GRRM wanted us to notice them. If he created aticipation,love or aversion in the readers to the extent he has, it’s because he had every intention to do so. Such strong reactions prove the author did an excelent job there and he wouldn’t have bothered to craft such interesting characterization and such ambiguous, multilayered and difficult to catalogue interactions for nothing.
Those who reduce this to something as superficial as thinking of them as a twenty- something-year-old man who has the hots for a thirteen year old girl and should be considered a perv for that have missed the context ( think of Dany&Drogo), the writer’s intentions and even what this relationship is really about.
Everyone can interpret what they read the way they like, but they should also respect other readers’ views and try not to make such partial, inconsistent and superficial assumptions when they read a series that may be too rich in contextual references, nuances and layers for some people to grasp.
“I’m no ser”
See, now that’s Sansa. In love with the pageantry, the valor, the chivalry. Aww look how adorable Sophie looks when she smiles!
Oh man, oh man, I ship SanxSan so hard that I like, can no longer function as a human being. Whoops.
THIS.
SO MUCH.
THANK YOU.
I LOVE YOU.
Sandor also never acted on his “desires” and Littlefinger does actually force himself upon Sansa. Sansa also comforts the Hound, whereas she tries to push Littlefinger away.
Looked a few responses. Firstly, they’re not 40-something. More like late 20’s. Secondly, the intention wasn’t to rape. If you don’t understand what was going on in Sansa’s room that night, perhaps you never will.
30 Hours of Game of Thrones
Hour 28: Worst Change From the Books: Littlefinger divulging The Hound’s past to Sansa instead of The Hound himself
Wouldn’t have taken them hours to do it either.
